The Network of Disclosure Ewert Market Alert Thread

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 17, 2009 8:58 AM

I think everybody but Paul Litch knows that's a cop-out.

Actually, I'm sure he knows that too.

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 17, 2009 9:25 AM

Brad Hamann wrote:

Well, it looks like this thread has chased it's first book into the sunlight.

The following Ewert submission book, graded on 10/15/2004, just went up for sale on one of the big auction/dealer sites.

Incredible Hulk #129 CGC 9.6 OW to W pages cert.# 0098437005

This book should be sent in for a check by CGC, if you own in presently, or if you decide to buy it. Asking price: $625

This book was just recently sold on a second major dealers site on Sept. 13, 2008 for $300. (gpanalyis data)

Please note: This book, has now been relisted on ComicLink for $525. If you purchase it, consider sending it to CGC for a trimming check. Remember with CGC's trimming check, YOU pay the shipping!

Patrick Beam · **Joined:** Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM **Posts:** 1562

Books purchase price is no longer being reimbursed by brulato. CGC will offer credit towards future submissions.

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 17, 2009 9:43 AM

Sounds like CGC is basically encouraging current holders to try to sell their Ewert subs to the next unsuspecting buyer ... and just keep passing the gift along.

Go CGC! :applause:

Patrick Beam · **Joined:** Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM **Posts:** 1562

Brad Hamann wrote:

Sounds like CGC is basically encouraging current holders to try to sell their Ewert subs to the next unsuspecting buyer ... and just keep passing the gift along.

Go CGC! :applause:

Really? I thought it meant...

Oh, wait. No... That is exactly what I thought. Basically F-U, you bought it you deal with it.

Mr. Zipper · **Joined:** Apr 25, 2007 2:21 AM **Posts:** 6017

Brad Hamann wrote:

Please note: This book, has now been relisted on ComicLink for $525. If you purchase it, consider sending it to CGC for a trimming check. Remember with CGC's trimming check, YOU pay the shipping!

$525? Good lord. Obviously someone isn't in too big of a hurry to wash their hands of it.

Michael Naiman · **Joined:** Oct 16, 2008 7:54 AM **Posts:** 555

The Gift that Keeps on Giving.....

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 17, 2009 1:28 PM

Actually, this book was first purchased in April of 2005 for $198, most likely from a jaenter Ebay sale.

Then it sold again in Sep 2008 for $300.

Thanks to www.gpanalysis.com Much obliged George!

MasterChief · **Posted:** Jan 18, 2009 12:41 PM

Brad Hamann wrote:

Actually, this book was first purchased in April of 2005 for $198, most likely from a jaenter Ebay sale.

Then it sold again in Sep 2008 for $300.

There is NO "most likely" about it... it is a FACT.

Incredible Hulk #129 CGC 9.6 (0098437005) was sold by Ewert via eBay on April 14, 2005
The eBay auction item number was 6524284918
The final closing price was $197.50

And to make certain and/or clarify any doubt as to whether this book was submitted by Jason Ewert...

Just 14 sequential submission forms before the one used to submit the Hulk #129 was a TRIMMED copy of Journey Into Mystery #103, CGC 9.4, certification #0098423003.

It was sold by Ewert on eBay 10 days later. The eBay auction number was 6526451736.

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 18, 2009 12:47 PM

Patrick Beam · **Joined:** Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM **Posts:** 1562

Great work guys!

Paul Clairmont · **Posted:** Jan 18, 2009 2:35 PM

Mitchell Jordan wrote:

Brad Hamann wrote:

Actually, this book was first purchased in April of 2005 for $198, most likely from a jaenter Ebay sale.

Then it sold again in Sep 2008 for $300.

There is NO "most likely" about it... it is a FACT.

Incredible Hulk #129 CGC 9.6 (0098437005) was sold by Ewert via eBay on April 14, 2005
The eBay auction item number was 6524284918
The final closing price was $197.50

And to make certain and/or clarify any doubt as to whether this book was submitted by Jason Ewert...

Just 14 sequential submission forms before the one used to submit the Hulk #129 was a TRIMMED copy of Journey Into Mystery #103, CGC 9.4, certification #0098423003.

It was sold by Ewert on eBay 10 days later. The eBay auction number was 6526451736.

Even when you connect the dots you'll have nah-sayers and apologists saying it means nothing :doh:

Great work guys :righton:

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 18, 2009 2:36 PM

I think of them as flat-earthers at this point.

MasterChief · **Posted:** Jan 18, 2009 11:53 PM

Dr. Disclosure wrote:

Even when you connect the dots you'll have nah-sayers and apologists saying it means nothing :doh:

So much has yet to be revealed about the manipulation events of the recent past. The information is there if you're of an inquisitive mind and have the mettle to conduct the necessary due diligence to uncover it. Education is the key and knowledge is your guide.

Don't let the words of the apparent apologist or complacent communicator discourage discovery. Conducted your own research and ask the probing question.

It is still your hobby so take an active roll.

:coffee:

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 19, 2009 7:57 AM

It looks like Sterling Smith is working on a utility that allows you to simply enter a CGC cert. # and get word back that your book is or is not on a suspected invoice number.

We'll link to that utility once SS has ironed out the bugs. Thanks, Sterl!

At our end, we will continue to canvas major dealer sites, ebay, auction houses and collector sales forums to watch for appearances of these books on the open market.

Paul Clairmont · **Posted:** Jan 19, 2009 8:06 AM

Mitchell Jordan wrote:

Dr. Disclosure wrote:

Even when you connect the dots you'll have nah-sayers and apologists saying it means nothing :doh:

So much has yet to be revealed about the manipulation events of the recent past. The information is there if you're of an inquisitive mind and have the mettle to conduct the necessary due diligence to uncover it. Education is the key and knowledge is your guide.

Don't let the words of the apparent apologist or complacent communicator discourage discovery. Conducted your own research and ask the probing question.

It is still your hobby so take an active roll.

:coffee:

I was just being sarcastic because people will constantly question the hard work being done here more then they'll question the situation that led to this great expose. :2cents:

Paul Clairmont · **Posted:** Jan 19, 2009 8:07 AM

Brad Hamann wrote:

It looks like Sterling Smith is working on a utility that allows you to simply enter a CGC cert. # and get word back that your book is or is not on a suspected invoice number.

We'll link to that utility once SS has ironed out the bugs. Thanks, Sterl!

At our end, we will continue to canvas major dealer sites, ebay, auction houses and collector sales forums to watch for appearances of these books on the open market.

Sterling is going above and beyond and should be commended for taking the bull by the horns as a concerned collector. :righton:

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 19, 2009 8:40 AM

Definitely! :righton:

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 21, 2009 10:50 PM

Question....

Should I post the next 100 books in the registry that appear on the suspect list, or should I just cut to the chase and post a list of all registry set owners with a suspect book in their collections?

Or.... wait another three years for CGC to make another post about the issue?

Jeff Rader · **Posted:** Jan 21, 2009 10:59 PM

Brad Hamann wrote:

Question....

Should I post the next 100 books in the registry that appear on the suspect list, or should I just cut to the chase and post a list of all registry set owners with a suspect book in their collections?

Or.... wait another three years for CGC to make another post about the issue?

I'm on the fence on this one, Brad. Both options have benefits but I guess if I were pressed to answer I'd go with the next 100 books, only because some may twist the listing of the registry set owners into what they want to label as some sort of defamatory witch hunt. Either way the info you have needs to be put out there since it will not be addressed any other way so whichever you choose...go for it!

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 22, 2009 10:16 AM

If I posted a list of registry holders, I would consider it a list of victims, who have not been aided by CGC. My only goal is to get CGC to get off their asses and act like a real company, with real responsibilities to their customers.

oxbladder · **Joined:** Apr 25, 2007 2:21 AM **Posts:** 1480

It may not be construed that way though by those people.

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 22, 2009 10:22 AM

As if I ever really cared...

But seriously... I will probably just add another 100 books to the public list and continue to contact collectors individually. We all know that CGC is going to continue to do exactly what they have been doing....

nothing.

Paul Clairmont · **Posted:** Jan 22, 2009 11:55 AM

I find it ridiculous that people would consider this a witch hunt of these dealers and collectors.

This is probably from the same insecure, head in the sand trolls that think I'm the boogie man coming back one day to steal another girl from the drama queen chat board from the socially disfunctional and all the while continue to think my trimming of a Tomahawk comic was a hoax. :doh:

Even when you slap them with truth they still find a way to apologize it away because they don't like the messanger. Just remember folks.....

Greed loves this kind moronic stubborness. :righton:

Now back to a happy life... log on in a week or two to see that there will probably be even more grading company sympathy and apologists

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 23, 2009 10:31 AM

The list of Ewert submitted/sold books found in CGC Registry sets has now been expanded to show the first 250. More to come....

http://www.macartistry.com/networkofdis ... /blues.htm

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 23, 2009 1:20 PM

Over 3,000 views for this thread. Must be doing something right. :yes:

Jeff Rader · **Posted:** Jan 23, 2009 4:11 PM

Brad Hamann wrote:

Over 3,000 views for this thread. Must be doing something right. :yes:

The impact you have had in stepping up to a plate that those in a better position to deal with have ducked is exemplary, Brad.

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 24, 2009 7:01 PM

Brad Hamann wrote:

Well, it looks like this thread has chased it's first book into the sunlight.

The following Ewert submission book, graded on 10/15/2004, just went up for sale on one of the big auction/dealer sites.

Incredible Hulk #129 CGC 9.6 OW to W pages cert.# 0098437005

This book should be sent in for a check by CGC, if you own in presently, or if you decide to buy it. Asking price: $625

This book was just recently sold on a second major dealers site on Sept. 13, 2008 for $300. (gpanalyis data)

Please note: This book, has now been relisted on ComicLink for $525. If you purchase it, consider sending it to CGC for a trimming check. Remember with CGC's trimming check, YOU pay the shipping!

Relisted today on CL. Asking price is now down to $475.

Red Hook · **Posted:** Jan 29, 2009 3:19 PM

Brad Hamann wrote:

Book currently for sale on major dealer's website:

Daredevil #53 CGC 9.6 OW to White pages cert. #0708995019 graded on May 2, 2005 , very very late in the game.

This book now on ComicLink. Asking price of $320.

Was previously on Pedigree Comics with an asking price of $400. Funny thing is, it had a current bid of $325 on it over there.

REMEMBER, before you buy this book.....

Quote:

The book with serial number 0708995019 needs to be reviewed by CGC.
Please call 1-877-NM-COMIC to confirm that this book does need to be reviewed.

Red Hook · **Posted:** Feb 01, 2009 1:33 PM

Brad Hamann wrote:

Well, it looks like this thread has chased it's first book into the sunlight.

The following Ewert submission book, graded on 10/15/2004, just went up for sale on one of the big auction/dealer sites.

Incredible Hulk #129 CGC 9.6 OW to W pages cert.# 0098437005

This book should be sent in for a check by CGC, if you own in presently, or if you decide to buy it. Asking price: $625

This book was just recently sold on a second major dealers site on Sept. 13, 2008 for $300. (gpanalyis data)

Please note: This book, has now been relisted on ComicLink for $525. If you purchase it, consider sending it to CGC for a trimming check. Remember with CGC's trimming check, YOU pay the shipping!

Relisted AGAIN on ComicLink today.... the asking price is now down to $450. Remember, if you send it in to CGC and it's found to be trimmed, you get a CGC credit for your account.

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