Red Hook wrote:
They have clearly been discredited. I wouldn't touch them with a fifty foot pole.
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(In my friendliest tone of voice) You are SUCH a curmudgeon, you know that? lol
But the sad thing is that while the online collecting community thoroughly understands your point, there are SO many who continue to give them their business. One of my local shops continues to use PGX strictly because of time and cost. Like it or not, PGX moves a LOT faster and costs a LOT less than CGC. For my shop owner, that's all there is to it. He's not really interested in what he views to be "online conspiracy theories," and so, goes with PGX. I've bought books from him for as long as I've lived here, and I know for a fact he is in NO WAY intentionally trying to use PGX as a means of getting unrestored grades on restored books. He just sees it as a cheaper and faster way of getting a book encased in plastic with a grade attached to it.
And for what it's worth, it's a shame PGX IS a cracked organization as I think their plastic case is a lot better than CGCs method of encapsulation.