Rusting (prepare yourself...this is really ugly).

highradart · **Joined:** Mar 02, 2010 9:54 PM **Posts:** 851

Is there something that can be done for this? This would be a really nice book if not for the rusted staples? I'd like to at least stop the rusting because it's already rusted through the cover on the top staple.

Mr. Zipper · **Joined:** Apr 25, 2007 2:21 AM **Posts:** 6017

Staples replacement is the only way to go at this point. The problem is you will always have the rust transfer to the paper and the book will technically be restored with the replacement.

This book is probably not valuable enough to be worth sending to a professional restorer. What I would probably do is find a cheap beater Marvel from the same era, and carefully remove the staples and use them to replace the rusted staples in this book. It's a DIY restoration job, but you'll be left with a rust-free reader copy.

:righton:

Mr. Zipper · **Joined:** Apr 25, 2007 2:21 AM **Posts:** 6017

BTW, part of the problem you are going to find is the paper with the rust transfer is probably severely weakened. I'd not be surprised to see the centerfold become detached. :2sad:

Mark S. Zaid · **Joined:** Apr 25, 2007 2:21 AM **Posts:** 1783

Actually staple replacement will not garner a purple restored label with CGC, it will receive a green qualified label.

Boozad · **Posted:** Mar 07, 2010 12:31 PM

Yet a married cover will recieve a Blue label. :notsure:

Never understood that.

Red Hook · **Posted:** Mar 07, 2010 2:58 PM

Well, Mark, you especially should remember Steve Borock's pronouncement in October of 2006:

"Disassembly and reassembly of a comic book, in and of itself, is not considered to be restoration."

So, if it's done right and CGC doesn't realize you swapped out the staples, then the book will be given a blue label.

Right?

Mike DeChellis · **Posted:** Mar 08, 2010 1:13 AM

Red Hook wrote:

Well, Mark, you especially should remember Steve Borock's pronouncement in October of 2006:

"Disassembly and reassembly of a comic book, in and of itself, is not considered to be restoration."

So, if it's done right and CGC doesn't realize you swapped out the staples, then the book will be given a blue label.

Right?

That is true but CGC has super powers and can always tell they have been replaced. :silly:

I dont really not how they could tell especially if you press the book after to create new impressions.

Mr. Zipper · **Joined:** Apr 25, 2007 2:21 AM **Posts:** 6017

Mike DeChellis wrote:

Red Hook wrote:

Well, Mark, you especially should remember Steve Borock's pronouncement in October of 2006:

"Disassembly and reassembly of a comic book, in and of itself, is not considered to be restoration."

So, if it's done right and CGC doesn't realize you swapped out the staples, then the book will be given a blue label.

Right?

That is true but CGC has super powers and can always tell they have been replaced. :silly:

I dont really not how they could tell especially if you press the book after to create new impressions.

Often the original staples leave marks along with an impression on the centerspread. If the staples no longer align with the marks, this is a red flag that the staples have been replaced, or at least the book has been taken apart. I think it's more difficult than it would seem to replace the staples so they align perfectly with the original markings. Bear in mind that you can't manipulate the staples too aggressively, because then there will be marks on the staples themselves.

Mike DeChellis · **Posted:** Mar 09, 2010 1:00 PM

Mr. Zipper wrote:

Mike DeChellis wrote:

Red Hook wrote:

Well, Mark, you especially should remember Steve Borock's pronouncement in October of 2006:

"Disassembly and reassembly of a comic book, in and of itself, is not considered to be restoration."

So, if it's done right and CGC doesn't realize you swapped out the staples, then the book will be given a blue label.

Right?

That is true but CGC has super powers and can always tell they have been replaced. :silly:

I dont really not how they could tell especially if you press the book after to create new impressions.

Often the original staples leave marks along with an impression on the centerspread. If the staples no longer align with the marks, this is a red flag that the staples have been replaced, or at least the book has been taken apart. I think it's more difficult than it would seem to replace the staples so they align perfectly with the original markings. Bear in mind that you can't manipulate the staples too aggressively, because then there will be marks on the staples themselves.

Here are some examples of me replacing the staples then pressing it to give it new staple marks.

highradart · **Joined:** Mar 02, 2010 9:54 PM **Posts:** 851

Mike,

To start with, it's really hard to tell from your pictures if I'm looking at the same book (at least for me it is). So assuming the second picture is the finished product I can see where someone would have a hard time distinguishing if the staples had indeed been replaced (nice work by the way). In this case (ASM), I don't think it would be too hard to tell the difference with the large rust stains (which I'm sure everyone already knows so I'll stop here).

Mike DeChellis · **Posted:** Mar 10, 2010 8:40 PM

highradart wrote:

Mike,

To start with, it's really hard to tell from your pictures if I'm looking at the same book (at least for me it is). So assuming the second picture is the finished product I can see where someone would have a hard time distinguishing if the staples had indeed been replaced (nice work by the way). In this case (ASM), I don't think it would be too hard to tell the difference with the large rust stains (which I'm sure everyone already knows so I'll stop here).

Sorry, I was getting :offtopic:

If it was my book I would replace the staples and repairing the centerfold. Leaving it the way it is probably isn't whats best for the book.

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