PGM Avengers 16

ComicCollectors · **Posted:** Jan 31, 2009 10:18 PM

Patrick Beam wrote:

But seriously, the books a 7.0. A 6.5 is out of the question, and a 7.5 isnt calling it home either.

Monkeyman · **Joined:** Apr 25, 2007 2:21 AM **Posts:** 3530

I didn't see the crease in the LRHC when I said 8.0. That being said, I have seen CGC 9.4 books with bent over overhangs.

Mike

Patrick Beam · **Joined:** Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM **Posts:** 1562

Marnin Rosenberg wrote:

Patrick Beam wrote:

But seriously, the books a 7.0. A 6.5 is out of the question, and a 7.5 isnt calling it home either.

Dont be jealous of my skills Marnin..

ComicCollectors · **Posted:** Feb 02, 2009 11:45 AM

Patrick Beam wrote:

Dont be jealous of my skills Marnin..

Pat, I was making a joke that apparently was misunderstood. What I was trying to say is that one needs to be a Magician in order to accurately grade a book from a scan because there are so many things you cannot see without actually holding the book in your hands, at least I have come to realize this on so many occasions over the years. :peace:

Red Hook · **Posted:** Feb 02, 2009 12:38 PM

BTW.... take a look at this book. It looks great in hand... and other than the small set of vertical color breaking creases in the upper right corner... it's gorgeous. CGC pounded the hell out of it when they graded it in April of 2006. That's why Zip's Avengers 16 would be a CGC 5.5.

Sold to me by Stuart DeGraff (NoChips) as a NM 9.2 in Sept of 2005. He was a little off. I was pretty stunned too. That was pretty much the end of my bothering to submit to CGC.

Mr. Zipper · **Joined:** Apr 25, 2007 2:21 AM **Posts:** 6033

Brad Hamann wrote:

BTW.... take a look at this book. It looks great in hand... and other than the small set of vertical color breaking creases in the upper right corner... it's gorgeous. CGC pounded the hell out of it when they graded it in April of 2006. That's why Zip's Avengers 16 would be a CGC 5.5.

A severe CGC beatdown on one book shouldn't set the precedent for every book that follows thereafter. I'm sure this CGC 7.0 looks better than 95% of other books sporting 7.0 labels.

I'd crack it out... unless there is a flaw other than the light crease URC, it was a bad miss.

Mr. Zipper · **Joined:** Apr 25, 2007 2:21 AM **Posts:** 6033

BTW, I will happily pay you full 7.0 guide for this book. :evillaugh:

Red Hook · **Posted:** Feb 02, 2009 1:09 PM

Zipper68 wrote:

Brad Hamann wrote:

BTW.... take a look at this book. It looks great in hand... and other than the small set of vertical color breaking creases in the upper right corner... it's gorgeous. CGC pounded the hell out of it when they graded it in April of 2006. That's why Zip's Avengers 16 would be a CGC 5.5.

A severe CGC beatdown on one book shouldn't set the precedent for every book that follows thereafter. I'm sure this CGC 7.0 looks better than 95% of other books sporting 7.0 labels.

I'd crack it out... unless there is a flaw other than the light crease URC, it was a bad miss.

It wasn't an isolated incident. The whole group I sent in got hammered.

Purchased from Stuart as a 9.2......

Patrick Beam · **Joined:** Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM **Posts:** 1562

Neither one of those look like a 9.2 to me

Red Hook · **Posted:** Feb 02, 2009 3:52 PM

I'm not saying they are....I just think that it's simply another reminder that CGC's grading can be inconsistent.

ComicCollectors · **Posted:** Feb 02, 2009 4:29 PM

Brad Hamann wrote:

I'm not saying they are....I just think that it's simply another reminder that CGC's grading can be inconsistent.

Consistently inconsistent.

Red Hook · **Posted:** Feb 02, 2009 4:29 PM

Precisely.

ComicCollectors · **Posted:** Feb 02, 2009 4:34 PM

Brad, you have any b/c scans of the TOS books?

Red Hook · **Posted:** Feb 02, 2009 4:57 PM

I can do that. But I'll post them tomorrow as I am heading off to teach. :-)

ComicCollectors · **Posted:** Feb 02, 2009 5:07 PM

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