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PostPosted: Mar 30, 2012 9:39 AM 
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With issue #0 out, am I the only one here who isn't interested in this series at all? If you are interested, any thoughts on what you are looking forward to, what you expect to happen, etc.?


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 Post subject: Re: Avengers vs. X-Men
PostPosted: Mar 30, 2012 3:51 PM 
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Marvel comic stories haven't interested me at all since Civil War and World War Hulk.
I'll "wikipedia" it when the event is over, just to stay informed.

I hope those who buy it, enjoy it.

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PostPosted: Mar 30, 2012 3:58 PM 
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I hope those who buy it, enjoy it.


I'm with you. I really can't seem to get motivated for it and it is being hyped as if it will be the biggest thing to happen ever in comics! They are planning pre-release parties and everything for the first issue and stores get to choose which side they were going to be on. That reminds me a little too much of Civil War. I do hope that the story is good and those who are excited about it like it but I just don't see me picking any of the issues up. :notsure:


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 Post subject: Re: Avengers vs. X-Men
PostPosted: Mar 30, 2012 9:28 PM 
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macathro wrote:
With issue #0 out, am I the only one here who isn't interested in this series at all?

Nope, you're not the only one. (Though I guess it's worth noting that I haven't bought a Marvel off the stands since 1990.) :wink:


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PostPosted: Mar 31, 2012 8:51 AM 
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No interest here. These "event" storylines never fail go disappoint and usually end up being meaningless.

I suppose it's hopelessly old fashioned of me to want solid consistent storytelling every month that continually builds characters we care about. If they coukd simply do this, there wouldn't be a need for gimmicks to build or retain readers.

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 Post subject: Re: Avengers vs. X-Men
PostPosted: Mar 31, 2012 2:50 PM 
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I haven't heard from one person that they are looking forward to this series yet. I'm actually surprised with how much hype it has been getting. If you are looking forward to it, please let us know. We'll be nice...honest! :)


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PostPosted: Apr 03, 2012 11:55 AM 
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Today is the big day! Is anyone planning on attending one of the pre-release parties at your local comic shop? I won't be at one :angry: . My LCS is holding a pretty good sale during that time, and free cupcakes! Oh well. :(


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PostPosted: Apr 05, 2012 4:32 PM 
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I'm actually looking forward to it. From the look of some of the solicitations over the next few months, there appears to actually be a storyline playing through the series. There has also been quite a bit of build up in the storylines leading upto this going back to House Of M.

I'm certainly not someone who blindly loves big crossovers, I thought House Of M was a bit dull, I liked Civil War, I had hopes for Secret Invasion but thought it was a big letdown and I thought that Fear Itself was OK but not great.

It doesn't surprise me that there hasn't been anybody here saying that they're looking forward to Avengers vs X Men as a lot of the guys here are more focused on vintage comics which in many cases means that they aren't into Modern comics and gives a "comics were better in the old days" vibe. It's not "cool" to admit liking current Marvel comics on a lot of vintage comic forums.

I certainly understand a lot of peoples being tired of big event after big event which is undeniably the way that things have gone. However, I can't really blame the big publishers for keeping on with producing them because, at the end of the day, they are very popular with the current readership. Readers of comics are buying these events and comic publishers are in it to make money, it doesn't mean that there aren't also good writers consistently turning out good comics with character development. Marvel has Ed Brubaker, Christos Gage, Dan Slott, Marjorie Liu, Greg Pak, Rick Remender, Matt Fraction, Peter David, Mark Waid, Chris Yost, Jonathan Hickman, Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning who are or have been producing a steady stream of consistent, solid comic storytelling over the last few years. I have quite a bit of respect for quality comic writers these days as most conceivable stories have been told at some point over the decades and it must be a hugely dificult task to try to come up with stories that are fresh month after month.

The gimmicks and the hype surrounding the upcoming crossover don't interest me at all, I am hoping for an enjoyable read though and I'm looking forward to the teasers that they are actualy going to do something with Iron Fist again as he's just been a background character since his last series finished. I don't have great faith in Bendis as he seems better suited to "lone characters" such as DD or Ultimate Spidey but at least this is more of a colaborative effort so my fingers are crossed. :hope:


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PostPosted: Apr 05, 2012 9:50 PM 
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I don't have great faith in Bendis as he seems better suited to "lone characters" such as DD or Ultimate Spidey but at least this is more of a colaborative effort so my fingers are crossed.


And that goes for Matt "Fraction" too. Come on, that pen name is so pretentious. Just use your real name Matt Fritchman. :angry:

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What do you think the chances are of this new series stimulating some interest in the X-MEN vs AVENGERS 4 issue mini from 1987?
I came across a set in excellent shape just a couple of months ago in a dollar bin & sure would like to see it shoot up in value by a few bucks. You know, just for sh*ts & giggles.


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What do you think the chances are of this new series stimulating some interest in the X-MEN vs AVENGERS 4 issue mini from 1987?
I came across a set in excellent shape just a couple of months ago in a dollar bin & sure would like to see it shoot up in value by a few bucks. You know, just for sh*ts & giggles.

It might stimulate interest to the point where you might get an extra bottle of beer out of the sale price but I don't see you retiring on it. :secret:


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I don't have great faith in Bendis as he seems better suited to "lone characters" such as DD or Ultimate Spidey but at least this is more of a colaborative effort so my fingers are crossed.


And that goes for Matt "Fraction" too. Come on, that pen name is so pretentious. Just use your real name Matt Fritchman. :angry:

Whatever name he goes by. I agree in that I think that his work on stuff like Iron Man and Iron Fist has been pretty good while Fear Itself was nothing special.


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PostPosted: Apr 27, 2012 8:06 AM 
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Did I read correctly that, in addition to the normal mini-series Avengers vs. X-Men, that there is ANOTHER series you need to buy called Avengers vs. X-Men AVX Versus (or something like that) that will contain the actual battle scenes between the people? Each book contains two 8 page battle scenes? Instead of including this material in the main series they now expect people to buy an additional book at $2.99 (or even $3.99) just to see how the fights go!? :argh: Why not include it in the regular series books, have them be over-sized and charge an extra $1 or so instead of making it a separate book? Its nothing but a money grab on Marvel's part. $-)


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PostPosted: Apr 27, 2012 10:07 AM 
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macathro wrote:
Did I read correctly that, in addition to the normal mini-series Avengers vs. X-Men, that there is ANOTHER series you need to buy called Avengers vs. X-Men AVX Versus (or something like that) that will contain the actual battle scenes between the people? Each book contains two 8 page battle scenes? Instead of including this material in the main series they now expect people to buy an additional book at $2.99 (or even $3.99) just to see how the fights go!? :argh: Why not include it in the regular series books, have them be over-sized and charge an extra $1 or so instead of making it a separate book? Its nothing but a money grab on Marvel's part. $-)

Hey Mike. :wave:

Well you could put it like that or you could say that they're trying to please everybody. If they have a series which focuses on superhero battles then they have people saying that there was no story and the whole series was worthless and shallow then if they focus on storytelling and characterisation, they get people saying that the series was dull, boring and wordy.

I've seen these kind of comments toward Marvel and other companies, they really are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I wouldn't say that it's fair to say that it's another series that you NEED to buy, if someone just wants to buy the "fighting series" then they can do and if someone wants to buy the "storyline series" then they can do. If the two series were combined into an extra size series then the price per issue would be higher so it wouldn't help anyone, it would just remove the choice to buy one or the other. I don't believe that everyone buying the main series will buy the fight series though most of those buying the fight series will probably buy the main series.

That's my :2cents: anyway. The response to the issues that have been released so far has actually been very positive generally so I'm hoping that I do have an enjoyable read ahead of me. :hope:


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Hey Mike. :wave:

Well you could put it like that or you could say that they're trying to please everybody. If they have a series which focuses on superhero battles then they have people saying that there was no story and the whole series was worthless and shallow then if they focus on storytelling and characterisation, they get people saying that the series was dull, boring and wordy.

I've seen these kind of comments toward Marvel and other companies, they really are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I wouldn't say that it's fair to say that it's another series that you NEED to buy, if someone just wants to buy the "fighting series" then they can do and if someone wants to buy the "storyline series" then they can do. If the two series were combined into an extra size series then the price per issue would be higher so it wouldn't help anyone, it would just remove the choice to buy one or the other. I don't believe that everyone buying the main series will buy the fight series though most of those buying the fight series will probably buy the main series.

That's my :2cents: anyway. The response to the issues that have been released so far has actually been very positive generally so I'm hoping that I do have an enjoyable read ahead of me. :hope:


Hi Garry! I understand the "They are darned if the do and darned if they don't" but why couldn't the one mini-series contain BOTH the story and the combat? Why the need for a second book? As for my comment about the NEED to buy, I was basing that on what I had heard about it. I heard that the battle books will "...have a direct impact on what happens in the main series." If you are following the main series and this other one will directly impact it, then to me it seems like a need. I'm glad that the response has been positive so far because I'd love to be wrong. Enjoy the books and please share your thoughts on them!


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Anyone give these books a read yet? I'm just wondering if anyone would share their thoughts on them.


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